:lol::lol::lol:
El Delorean, que hdp… :lol:
Siempre juegan con la ambiguedad, como la que dije cuando ví un resúmen, la de Ben y Widmore. Quien es bueno, quien es malo? hacen el mismo jueguito que Jacob y su Némesis, donde ninguno puede matar al otro, lo mismo pasa con Ben y Widmore, saltó en el diálogo cuando Ben lo visita a Widmore en la habitación.
Acá está lo que puse un par de páginas atrás:
Me acuerdo que Widmore le dijo esa vez en la habitación a Ben cuando entro mientras dormía, que la isla era suya, que iba a volver y que Ben es quien es gracias a él… o sea en ese diálogo hay muchas cosas importantes:
W: “Viniste a materme, Ben?”
B: “Ambos sabemos que NO PUEDO HACERLO…” (entre Jacob y el Anti-Jacob no podían hacerse daño… tendrá algo que ver? serán sus representantes o serán “candidatos” como Sawyer que no puede/n lastimarlo?)
W:“Y por qué estás aquí?”
B: “Porque mataste a mi hija…”
W:"…los dos sabemos muy bien que yo no la mate, fuiste tu… te metes en mi habitación como rata tienes la audacia de presentarte como víctima… se quién eres, lo que eres, y lo que tienes me lo quitaste a mí… que haces aquí?"
B:"…vine a decirte que voy a matar a tu hija… y cuando esté muerta, sabrás cómo me siento. Y desearás no haber cambiado LAS REGLAS…" (las reglas a las que hizo referencia el pibe Rubito que aparecía al Anti-Jacob y Sawyer?)
W: “… la isla es mía, siempre lo fue y lo volverá a ser…”
B: “…nunca la encontrarás…”
W: “bien, entonces supongo que comenzó la cacería para nosotros dos…”
B: “si, supongo que sí…”
Algo que encontré sobre los números tachados de Jacob:
Partial list of candidates
2: LACOMBE Cave Probably Lacombe from the science expedition.
4 LOCKE Cave John Locke. He met Jacob when he was thrown out a window by his father. Jacob touched his shoulder and said he was sorry that happened to him. Was crossed off the list by the Man in Black
8 REYES Cave Hugo Reyes. Met Jacob upon release from prison, and was talked into booking passage on Ajira Flight 316. Jacob touched Hurley’s chest when emphasizing the importance of the flight.
10 MATTINGLEY Cave Probably the US army soldier whose uniform was stolen and used by an Other in 1954.
12 FOSTER Lighthouse Unknown.
13 Beckett Lighthouse Unknown.
14 PRYCE Cave/Lighthouse Probably Ryan Pryce, an Other who Hurley ran over with a DHARMA van.
15 FORD Cave/Lighthouse James Ford. Met Jacob as a child at his parents’ funeral. Jacob touched Sawyer when he handed him a pen, which Sawyer used to write his letter. Identified as a candidate by the Man in Black. Has currently chosen the third option: Leave the Island.
16 JARRAH Cave/Lighthouse Sayid Jarrah. Met Jacob when his wife Nadia was murdered. He touched Sayid’s shoulder briefly. Identified as a candidate by the Man in Black.
17 Barnes Lighthouse Unknown.
18 Kueffner Lighthouse Unknown.
19 Nguyen Lighthouse Unknown
20 ROUSSEAU Cave/Lighthouse Probably Alex Rousseau or Danielle Rousseau.
21 McHenry Lighthouse Unknown.
22 Moorhead Lighthouse Unknown.
23 SHEPHARD Cave/Lighthouse Jack Shephard met Jacob at the hospital where he worked after his first successful surgery. Jacob offered Jack an Apollo Bar that he had unsuccessfully tried to dislodge from the vending machine. Their fingers touched as Jacob passed the bar to Jack. Identified as a candidate by the Man in Black. Could also refer to Christian Shephard who has often been seen in Jacob’s cabin. In the episode Lighthouse the mirrors in the lighthouse displayed Christian Shephard’s house, where Jack once lived as a youngster. On the wheel in Jacob’s Lighthouse, Shephard’s name is written in a darker black ink and different handwriting than the names surrounding his. There are also several small punctures in the surface around his name and a few of those below it.
24 Kluxen Lighthouse Unknown.
25 Asher Lighthouse Unknown.
26 Bozarth Lighthouse Unknown.
27 Dorrie Lighthouse Unknown (possibly Naomi Dorrit?).
28 Howard Lighthouse Unknown.
29 BRENNAN Cave Probably the Brennan from the science expedition. In the lighthouse, “Brennan” appears with the number 35.
30 Wade Lighthouse Unknown.
31 TOMS Lighthouse Unknown. 31
32 RUTHERFORD Cave/Lighthouse Probably Shannon Rutherford or her father, Adam Rutherford. In the cave, the name appears with the number 31; it appears clearly with the number 32 in the lighthouse. Like other differences in numbers between the two lists, this discrepancy is not explained.
33 Novak Lighthouse Unknown.
34 Grimaldi Lighthouse Unknown.
35 Brennan Lighthouse Probably Brennan from the science expedition. In the cave, “BRENNAN” appears with the number 29.
36 Syzmanksi Lighthouse Unknown.
37 Torres Lighthouse Unknown.
38 Lindstrom Lighthouse Unknown.
39 Mortoka Lighthouse Unknown.
40 Dowsen Lighthouse Unknown
41 Turner Lighthouse Unknown.
42 KWON Cave/Lighthouse Sun-Hwa Kwon and Jin-Soo Kwon both met Jacob when during their wedding when he congratulated them and advised them to keep their promises. Both were touched by Jacob simultaneously notably on their shoulders. The Man in Black indicated one of them was a candidate but was unable to identify which one. KWON may also refer to Ji Yeon Kwon, the daughter of Sun and Jin, who was conceived on the Island.
43 BARNES Lighthouse Unknown. Possibly related to #17
44 MARTINEZ Lighthouse Unknown.
45 Latta Lighthouse Unknown.
46 Osalka Lighthouse Unknown.
47 Gupta Lighthouse Unknown.
48 Stanhope Lighthouse Probably Harper Stanhope or Goodwin Stanhope.
49 Meyers Lighthouse Unknown.
50 Gowner Lighthouse Unknown.
51 Austen Lighthouse Most likely Kate Austen, who met Jacob as a child when she was caught trying to shoplift a lunchbox. Jacob helped her, paying for the lunchbox, and touched her on the nose. Her name was not seen on the cave, but was later seen in the Lighthouse, not crossed out. It has been confirmed by Carlton Cuse that Kate’s name was on the cave wall, but regrettably did not make the final edit. He also confirmed her name was crossed out on the cave wall. Possibly Sam Austen or Aaron Littleton (who went by Aaron Austen).
52 Birn Lighthouse Unknown.
53 Driscall Lighthouse Unknown.
54 Olarti Lighthouse Unknown.
55 KENNEDY Lighthouse Unknown
56 Haasra Lighthouse Unknown. Not crossed out.
57 Grimwault Lighthouse Unknown. Not crossed out.
58 Burke Cave/Lighthouse Probably Juliet Burke. Could also be her late ex-husband, Edmund Burke.
59 Suzuki Lighthouse Unknown.
60 Kysea Lighthouse Unknown. Not crossed out.
61 Davies Lighthouse Unknown.
62 Inman Lighthouse Probably Kelvin Inman.
64 GOLDSTEIN Cave Unknown.
73 COSTA Cave Unknown.
77 FRANETZKI Cave Unknown.
90 TROUPE Cave Probably Gary Troup, a deceased Oceanic survivor and author of Bad Twin.
93 Luttwig Lighthouse Unknown.
94 Cohen Lighthouse Unknown.
95 Pollema Lighthouse Unknown.
96 Greeson Lighthouse Unknown.
97 Pallison Lighthouse Unknown.
98 Horton Lighthouse Unknown. Possibly related to #112.
99 Goodson Lighthouse Unknown.
100 Bardfield Lighthouse Unknown.
101 Faraday Cave/Lighthouse Probably Daniel Faraday.
102 Montand Lighthouse Probably Montand from Rousseau’s team.
103 Horsman Lighthouse Unknown.
104 Lewis Lighthouse Probably Charlotte Lewis, or her parents David and Jeanette. In the cave, “LEWIS” appears with the number 140.
105 Onaa Lighthouse Unknown.
106 Sregzyaski Lighthouse Unknown.
107 Thomson Lighthouse Unknown.
108 Wallace Cave/Lighthouse Unknown.
109 Friendly Lighthouse Probably Tom Friendly.
110 Eipons Lighthouse Unknown.
111 Klein Lighthouse Unknown.
112 Horton Lighthouse Unknown. Possibly related to #98.
113 WORDEN Lighthouse Unknown.
114 YAMADA Lighthouse Unknown. Being the only Japanese surname in the list, might be Dogen.
115 BARGAS Cave/Lighthouse Unknown. Possibly spelled “Barqas” or “Vargas”.
116 LAMBERT Cave/Lighthouse Unknown.
117 LINUS Cave/Lighthouse Probably Ben Linus, or his father Roger Linus.
118 CHAVEZ Lighthouse Unknown.
119 Almeida Cave/Lighthouse Unknown.
120 Rodriguez Cave/Lighthouse Unknown.
121 Nielson Lighthouse Unknown.
122 Freed Lighthouse Unknown.
123 Clay Lighthouse Unknown.
124 Dawson Cave/Lighthouse Probably Michael Dawson.
125 Owens Lighthouse Unknown.
126 Renti Lighthouse Unknown.
127 MORA Lighthouse Unknown.
128 Paddock Lighthouse Unknown.
129 Campbell Lighthouse Probably Brother Campbell
130 Tillman Lighthouse Unknown.
131 Jack… Lighthouse Possibly Scott Jackson
140 LEWIS Cave Probably Charlotte Lewis, or her parents David and Jeanette. In the lighthouse, “Lewis” appears with the number 104.
171 STRAUME Cave Probably Miles Straume.
195 PACE Cave Probably Charlie Pace.
197 SHECKLER Cave Unknown
202 HARGGUS Cave Unknown
222 O’TOOLE Cave Unknown.
226 CARLYLE Cave Probably Boone Carlyle.
231 AMISTAD Cave Unknown.
233 JONES Cave Probably the US army soldier whose uniform was stolen and used by Charles Widmore in 1954.
251 YARIS Cave Unknown.
272 ORALINGO Cave Unknown.
282 AGUILA Cave Unknown.
285 JENKINS Cave Probably Steve Jenkins, a survivor who died in the flaming arrow attack.
291 DOMINGO Cave Unknown.
301 MARS Cave Probably Edward Mars, a survivor who died shortly after the crash.
313 LITTLETON Cave Probably Claire or Aaron. Not Likely Carole.
317 CUNNINGHAM Cave Probably the US army soldier whose uniform was stolen and used by an Other in 1954.
321 FERNANDEZ Cave Probably Nikki Fernandez who was on board Oceanic Flight 815 but later killed.
335 HENDERSON Cave Unknown
337 MARTIN Cave Probably Karl Martin, the “Other” who was dating Alex Rousseau.
346 GRANT Cave Unknown. Probably 346 if the compass goes from 1 to 360.
CHANG Cave Probably Pierre Chang or Lara Chang. Miles is separately listed under Straume.
DAVISON Cave Unknown.
GARNER Cave Unknown.
GOODSPEED Cave Probably one of the many Goodspeeds, who include Horace, Amy, Olivia, and Ethan.
PICKETT Cave Probably Danny Pickett or Colleen Pickett.
REYNOLDS Cave Unknown.
SULLIVAN Cave Probably Sullivan, a survivor who most likely died when the remaining survivors got separated while the Island traveled through time.
Se me había olvidado comentar acerca del capitulo, estuvo excelente, pobrecito Sayid, que pasará con Kate?, Donde esta Jin?, si Albert hace rato partió hacía el templo porque todavía no ha llegado, donde esta?
El siguiente capitulo es Dr. Linus.
Todos los capitulos referidos a la vida de Ben son maravillosos, seguramente éste no será la excepción… Falta una vida para que salga y tengo un sueño tremendo pero de alguna manera voy a aguantar para verlo…
Que bien que hice en dormir 6 hs de siesta :mrgreen:
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Por fin… Falta menos para poder dormir…
Subtítulos de Lost s06e07 subidos por jrvr07
Ahora a disfrutar 
6X07 “Dr. Linus”
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De menos a más el capítulo. La escena del final se sabía que tarde o temprano iba a aparecer en ésta temporada. Pensé que se iba a descubrir el misterio de Alpert pero siguen con la intriga. Muy interesante la charla de Ben con su padre.
coincido turco… dejó muchos datos este capitulo; no habia necesidad de dejar esa escena para el final…:lol: como te enganchan hdps
Te dejan con el choto parado siempre en todos los finales… :mrgreen:
No pude encontrar un subs como la gente, baje varos pero no los corrigieron aún, igual, ya lo corregí yo. La verdad que prácticamente ni leía los primeros que bajé de lo mal que estaban.
[SPOILER]
Era fija q era Charles!!!
Richard Alpert llegó con “La Perla Negra”, (¿un esclavo?), por una razón u otra Jacob le “otorgó” la juventud eterna junto si formaba parte del plan que Richard jamás conoció, como ahi explica el mismo . El plan lo van a dejar para lo último, es lo q alimenta esta última temporada y creo yo tiene q explicar lo esencial de la serie.[/SPOILER]
Los subtitulos cada vez peores, se desesperan por sacarlos y lo hacen como el culo.
El próximo cap de quien es?
Como viene la serie perfectamente pueden seguir con una temporada más :P.
Muy buen capitulo, una de los momentos en los cuales Ben se gano parte del odio que se le tiene al personaje fue cuando mataron a su hija, como el mismo lo dice escogió la isla y su poder antes que ha ella, en este capitulo muestran un lado opuesto decide lo mejor para Alex en vez de su propio beneficio, aunque en los dos paralelos muestran que es un chantajista, hay cosas que no cambian.
Uno de los momentos que más me gustaron fueron la escena de Richard y Jack, creo que las palabras de Jack recobraron parte de la fe o esperanza que Richard había perdido hacia algo que no sabemos todavía ja.
El siguiente capitulo se centra en Sawyer.
No me gusta la miradita entre kate y sawyer.
Lo volví a ver y todavía no me cierra del todo que sea Charles pero te veo muy seguro, en una primera impresión realmente ni me había avivado por lo avejentado que se mostraba y por el respirador que tenía, después lo comparé con la última imagen del capítulo y me cerró un poco más… Además por lógica debería ser él, sino no le centran semejante escena ni hablarían de esos temas…
Widmore el padre de Ben decis vos Turco? Sory o me marié o no te entendi. El que “vuelve” a la isla al final del cap es Charles, pero a que te referis vos?
Tu comentario me hizo dar cuenta que todo se trataba de un malentendido mío… Yo pensé que lo que había dicho el forista monserratyberti era que Widmore era el padre de Ben en el capítulo, cosa que no me cerraba ni un poco por más de su parecido físico… Pero se refería a la última escena y no a la que yo cité en mi primer comentario… Mi confusión llevó a la tuya, creo que ahora quedó todo aclarado…
Tengo una preg…
en los sitios de review del ult cap hablan de los candidatos. Ilana dijo que eran 6, por lo cual alguno estaria quedando afuera, o estarían quedando afuera, incluso 2, si Ben es candidato aun sin saberlo… ¿quienes quedaron afuera y porque, alguno lo sabe? será porque se “infectaron”?, caso sayid, caso claire??
yo pienso que de los 6… habla de Sawyer, Hurley, Jack, Sayid, Kate y alguno de los dos Kwon… o de ambos! y suprime de estoa Kate, que tampoco aparecia su apellido en al piedra que tenia Jacob…