# El "Negro" Astrada o Ramon Angel Díaz? **URL:** https://www.turiver.com/t/el-negro-astrada-o-ramon-angel-diaz/55476 **Category:** Campo de Juego **Created:** [8 Julio, 2008 12:31 UTC](https://www.turiver.com/t/el-negro-astrada-o-ramon-angel-diaz/55476 "2008-07-08T12:31:59Z") **Posts on this page:** 20 **Page:** 1
### Author: ![system](https://trcdn.b-cdn.net/original/4X/d/9/a/d9a08ea2cb0ac042d4a784c65507e1ebd89dc353.png) [@system](https://www.turiver.com/u/system) #### Post date: [8 Julio, 2008 12:31 UTC](https://www.turiver.com/t/el-negro-astrada-o-ramon-angel-diaz/55476/1 "2008-07-08T12:31:59Z")
### **Ver resultados de la encuesta:** Astrada o Díaz? Volatentes: 130 (No puedes votar en esta encuesta) - Leonardo Astrada: 28 (22%) - Ramón Angel Díaz: 102 (78%) ---
### Author: ![system](https://trcdn.b-cdn.net/original/4X/d/9/a/d9a08ea2cb0ac042d4a784c65507e1ebd89dc353.png) [@system](https://www.turiver.com/u/system) #### Post date: [8 Julio, 2008 12:31 UTC](https://www.turiver.com/t/el-negro-astrada-o-ramon-angel-diaz/55476/2 "2008-07-08T12:31:59Z")
Si tuvieran que tomar una desicion, cual elegirían? ---
### Author: ![system](https://trcdn.b-cdn.net/original/4X/d/9/a/d9a08ea2cb0ac042d4a784c65507e1ebd89dc353.png) [@system](https://www.turiver.com/u/system) #### Post date: [8 Julio, 2008 12:33 UTC](https://www.turiver.com/t/el-negro-astrada-o-ramon-angel-diaz/55476/3 "2008-07-08T12:33:04Z")
ramon ---
### Author: ![Luis](https://cdn.turiver.com/user_avatar/www.turiver.com/luis/32/11_2.png) [@Luis](https://www.turiver.com/u/Luis) #### Post date: [8 Julio, 2008 12:33 UTC](https://www.turiver.com/t/el-negro-astrada-o-ramon-angel-diaz/55476/4 "2008-07-08T12:33:34Z")
el hambre o las ganas de comer… :lol: no se… ninguno me entusiasma demasiado… ---
### Author: ![system](https://trcdn.b-cdn.net/original/4X/d/9/a/d9a08ea2cb0ac042d4a784c65507e1ebd89dc353.png) [@system](https://www.turiver.com/u/system) #### Post date: [8 Julio, 2008 12:34 UTC](https://www.turiver.com/t/el-negro-astrada-o-ramon-angel-diaz/55476/5 "2008-07-08T12:34:17Z")
RAMON, SIN NINGUNA DUDA. ---
### Author: ![juan\_miguel](https://cdn.turiver.com/user_avatar/www.turiver.com/juan_miguel/32/124_2.png) [@juan\_miguel](https://www.turiver.com/u/juan_miguel) #### Post date: [8 Julio, 2008 12:34 UTC](https://www.turiver.com/t/el-negro-astrada-o-ramon-angel-diaz/55476/6 "2008-07-08T12:34:19Z")
ramon diaz. el mejor de todos. pero en caso de que el no este disponible para diciembre, me gusta astrada ---
### Author: ![juani\_river14](https://cdn.turiver.com/user_avatar/www.turiver.com/juani_river14/32/398_2.png) [@juani\_river14](https://www.turiver.com/u/juani_river14) #### Post date: [8 Julio, 2008 12:41 UTC](https://www.turiver.com/t/el-negro-astrada-o-ramon-angel-diaz/55476/7 "2008-07-08T12:41:53Z")
ramon ---
### Author: ![pablo\_los14](https://cdn.turiver.com/user_avatar/www.turiver.com/pablo_los14/32/641_2.png) [@pablo\_los14](https://www.turiver.com/u/pablo_los14) #### Post date: [8 Julio, 2008 12:46 UTC](https://www.turiver.com/t/el-negro-astrada-o-ramon-angel-diaz/55476/8 "2008-07-08T12:46:08Z")
el negro ---
### Author: ![Ashter](https://cdn.turiver.com/user_avatar/www.turiver.com/ashter/32/302_2.png) [@Ashter](https://www.turiver.com/u/Ashter) #### Post date: [8 Julio, 2008 12:47 UTC](https://www.turiver.com/t/el-negro-astrada-o-ramon-angel-diaz/55476/9 "2008-07-08T12:47:27Z")
El Jefe. ---
### Author: ![Marto](https://cdn.turiver.com/user_avatar/www.turiver.com/marto/32/318_2.png) [@Marto](https://www.turiver.com/u/Marto) #### Post date: [8 Julio, 2008 12:57 UTC](https://www.turiver.com/t/el-negro-astrada-o-ramon-angel-diaz/55476/10 "2008-07-08T12:57:58Z")
Ramón. Abrazos, Martín. ---
### Author: ![javito99](https://cdn.turiver.com/user_avatar/www.turiver.com/javito99/32/532_2.png) [@javito99](https://www.turiver.com/u/javito99) #### Post date: [8 Julio, 2008 12:58 UTC](https://www.turiver.com/t/el-negro-astrada-o-ramon-angel-diaz/55476/11 "2008-07-08T12:58:18Z")
ramon!!! que pregunta eh!!! ---
### Author: ![Alejo](https://cdn.turiver.com/user_avatar/www.turiver.com/alejo/32/373_2.png) [@Alejo](https://www.turiver.com/u/Alejo) #### Post date: [8 Julio, 2008 13:18 UTC](https://www.turiver.com/t/el-negro-astrada-o-ramon-angel-diaz/55476/12 "2008-07-08T13:18:53Z")
Ramón, pero por descarte nomás… ---
### Author: ![JuAmPi](https://cdn.turiver.com/user_avatar/www.turiver.com/juampi/32/168_2.png) [@JuAmPi](https://www.turiver.com/u/JuAmPi) #### Post date: [8 Julio, 2008 13:19 UTC](https://www.turiver.com/t/el-negro-astrada-o-ramon-angel-diaz/55476/13 "2008-07-08T13:19:18Z")
Ramon, pero si nos conformamos con pelear el descenso Astrada esta bien. ---
### Author: ![sebaCARP](https://cdn.turiver.com/user_avatar/www.turiver.com/sebacarp/32/227_2.png) [@sebaCARP](https://www.turiver.com/u/sebaCARP) #### Post date: [8 Julio, 2008 13:22 UTC](https://www.turiver.com/t/el-negro-astrada-o-ramon-angel-diaz/55476/14 "2008-07-08T13:22:24Z")
RAMON ---
### Author: ![juan\_miguel](https://cdn.turiver.com/user_avatar/www.turiver.com/juan_miguel/32/124_2.png) [@juan\_miguel](https://www.turiver.com/u/juan_miguel) #### Post date: [8 Julio, 2008 13:36 UTC](https://www.turiver.com/t/el-negro-astrada-o-ramon-angel-diaz/55476/15 "2008-07-08T13:36:15Z")
> [@\_JuAmPi\_](#): > > Ramon, pero si nos conformamos con pelear el descenso Astrada esta bien 1 torneo ganado. 1 peleando hasta la anteultima. 2 semis de libertadores, en 1 año y medio. no es suficiente, pero lejos de pelear el descenso ---
### Author: ![system](https://trcdn.b-cdn.net/original/4X/d/9/a/d9a08ea2cb0ac042d4a784c65507e1ebd89dc353.png) [@system](https://www.turiver.com/u/system) #### Post date: [8 Julio, 2008 13:37 UTC](https://www.turiver.com/t/el-negro-astrada-o-ramon-angel-diaz/55476/16 "2008-07-08T13:37:05Z")
ramon ---
### Author: ![LICU](https://cdn.turiver.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/ec9cab/32.png) [@LICU](https://www.turiver.com/u/LICU) #### Post date: [8 Julio, 2008 13:38 UTC](https://www.turiver.com/t/el-negro-astrada-o-ramon-angel-diaz/55476/17 "2008-07-08T13:38:02Z")
ramon ---
### Author: ![Jorgee](https://cdn.turiver.com/user_avatar/www.turiver.com/jorgee/32/494_2.png) [@Jorgee](https://www.turiver.com/u/Jorgee) #### Post date: [8 Julio, 2008 13:44 UTC](https://www.turiver.com/t/el-negro-astrada-o-ramon-angel-diaz/55476/18 "2008-07-08T13:44:50Z")
Ninguno de los dos. Pero ninguno eehhhhh !!! ---
### Author: ![Vir](https://cdn.turiver.com/user_avatar/www.turiver.com/vir/32/293_2.png) [@Vir](https://www.turiver.com/u/Vir) #### Post date: [8 Julio, 2008 13:47 UTC](https://www.turiver.com/t/el-negro-astrada-o-ramon-angel-diaz/55476/19 "2008-07-08T13:47:54Z")
Astrada 100% ---
### Author: ![JuAmPi](https://cdn.turiver.com/user_avatar/www.turiver.com/juampi/32/168_2.png) [@JuAmPi](https://www.turiver.com/u/JuAmPi) #### Post date: [8 Julio, 2008 13:53 UTC](https://www.turiver.com/t/el-negro-astrada-o-ramon-angel-diaz/55476/20 "2008-07-08T13:53:40Z")
> [@juan\_miguel](#): > > > [@\_JuAmPi\_](#): > > > > Ramon, pero si nos conformamos con pelear el descenso Astrada esta bien > > 1 torneo ganado. 1 peleando hasta la anteultima. 2 semis de libertadores, en 1 año y medio. no es suficiente, pero lejos de pelear el descens 1 torneo ganado (Ameli, Mascherano, Coudet, Montenegro, Lucho Gonzalez, Cavenaghi, Salas) 1 copa libertadores perdiendo la semifinal con la Bosta, como para que duela poco. 1 campeonato perdido acompañado de una eliminacion tempranera a manos de ARSENAL. 1 campeonato que no se si llegamos a los 25 puntos, lamentable. 1 semifinal de copa en la que no duramos ni un partido con vida (Diogo, Ameli, Mascherano, Lucho Gonzalez, Cavenaghi, Salas) Y bue, un final esperado con una goleada bochornosa. [Página siguiente](https://www.turiver.com/t/el-negro-astrada-o-ramon-angel-diaz/55476.md?page=2)